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  • user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>*Not MD related but I thought this would be a good place to post* please don\'t flame me :)</p>\n<p>OK, I currently have a dedicated myth backend (MD5) server that I use as a general \"home server.\" It does everything for our house. The biggest thing is myth, but also, internal web server, music &amp; movies server, photos, backups (rsync scripts), zone alarm, kickstart server, and other stuff I\'m leaving off. It\'s been great I don\'t really have any complaints. MD5 was a really great release. With that said the repos are old and adding new software is getting tougher w/ time. I\'d like to migrate to a platform that I can keep a little more up to date w/ smooth(er) upgrades. :) I\'ll probably keep it in run-level 3; it\'s headless and in the closet. </p>\n<p>I wanted to get some opinions here on what I should use. Switching the 64-bit CentOS or Ubuntu server are the first two options that come to mind. For my experience they seem to upgrade between releases a little smoother than Fedora (I know that\'s super subjective - don\'t hate me) I do feel more \"at home\" w/ red hat based linux, but lately I\'ve really been loving ubuntu on my laptop. I\'m thinking about jumping ship. </p>\n<p>Any thoughts? I\'m curious to get some other opinions about this. What would you guys use for a server like this? </p>\n<p>I\'ll stick w/ MD on my frontends. .......but please let\'s add Boxee to MD11-22. </p>\n<p>:)</p>\n<p>Cheers,<br />\n-ben</p>\n', created = 1369243222, expire = 1369329622, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:a8419a1a5fd805281524101c576b448b' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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  • user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>\n<div class=\"quote-msg\">\n<div class=\"quote-author\"><em>guitarben</em> wrote:</div>\n<p>[ ... ]</p>\n<p>Any thoughts? I\'m curious to get some other opinions about this. What would you guys use for a server like this? </p>\n<p>I\'ll stick w/ MD on my frontends. .......but please let\'s add Boxee to MD11-22. \n</p></div>\n</p>\n<p>I eventually made a home server for many of the reasons you mention (and others).<br />\nI kept my MD 5 backend and moved most other functions to the server, which is running on an older motherboard loaded with Centos 5.1. Like you, I\'m much more familiar with the Red Hat systems. I\'ve played with Ubuntu on a desktop, but have reverted to Fedora for that; mostly use Windows on my desktops for job related reasons.</p>\n<p>Services I run the Centos system are mysql (which is no longer running on the MD server), media shared via NFS and Samba (videos, music), ntp, and a few other minor services. The MythDora system now stores only recordings and temp files on its local filesystem.<br />\nI noticed straight away that my MD server ran smoother with the database access off on another spindle.<br />\nI also have a MD 10.21 based frontend; I\'d like to move my MD 5 server to MD 10.21, but haven\'t yet dedicated time to doing that, hoping instead that 11.22 will come along... not holding my breath; not in too big a hurry as long as it\'s running well.</p>\n<p>A not too out of date description can be seen at <a href=\"http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Mgpalmer\">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Mgpalmer</a><br />\n--<br />\nMichael Palmer</p>\n', created = 1369243222, expire = 1369329622, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:c68d880054e37dd50277abd8f94cd98d' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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  • user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Not sure if your referring to Fedora not upgrading well by itself or just MythDora. If your referring to MythDora the answer is that the repos weren\'t always compatible but since version 10.21 rpmfusion is now in place and upgrades should be smoother now. But for anyone using versions prior to 10.21, yes it doesn\'t upgrade well. It seems everyone is on the Ubuntu wagon and I\'m not sure why. They really aren\'t doing anything mind blowingly different then what Fedora hasn\'t already. I\'ve never used Ubuntu so I can\'t comment on what to use. It\'s one of those things where if your comfortable with something and it works then stick with it.</p>\n<p>As for Boxee, we are working on including that as we speak. I have already created a Boxee rpm that does work but it\'s not the cleanest method and will not work in our repos. Ryan is attempting to see if he can compile things and create a valid source and rpm that can be used for us. I also want to include XBMC as well. Someone has already created rpm\'s for that but I have no idea if there are src rpm\'s and if they will work in our repo. If someone wants to test XBMC out for us you can download here.<br />\n<a href=\"ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/www.sourcemirrors.org/scotth/fedora/10/i386/\">ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/www.sourcemirrors.org/scotth/fedora/10/i386/</a><br />\nI\'ll more then likely try this out myself to see what it does.</p>\n<p>\"Please ignore the man behind the curtain\"<br />\nDennis</p>\n', created = 1369243222, expire = 1369329622, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:d6c3cb87ee64b6a3ed3e9e3997b9803e' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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  • user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Thanks for the responses. That\'s really great news about Boxee &amp; XBMC (I\'ve been using that one for a loooong time)! I\'m pumped about that being included. I recently hooked up both Boxee &amp; XBMC to my backend using the myth:// protocol and it\'s pretty sweet. Not as good as myth-frontend but good enough to watch your shows and do a couple of other basic things. For upgrades I was referring to Fedora - I\'ve had a few run smoothly and one not so smoothly. </p>\n<p>As far as Ubuntu is concerned, I held out as long as I could. :) The main benefit for me is I don\'t waste near as much time trying to fix things that don\'t work out of the box - but ubuntu ain\'t perfect either, but it \"feels\" a little more polished to me. I still actively use &amp; endorse both projects. </p>\n<p>I guess I\'m leaning towards CentOS for this server. I really like the idea of getting away from the 6 month upgrades. It would be interesting to see how smoothly upgrades would go w/ the rpmfusion repo. I\'m still debating. </p>\n<p>btw. Denis did you ever sell your wife on MD and move it to your big screen in the living room? You of all people should have it running there. :) I\'ve completely converted my wife; she no longer misses Tivo and is always telling everyone how great it is and everything. </p>\n<p>I\'d love to get some more people to way in. Ryan, any hot sport opinions?</p>\n<p>Cheers,<br />\n-Ben</p>\n', created = 1369243222, expire = 1369329622, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:bbcf3da669d3d8d1844c0105ff199e50' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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  • user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>\n<div class=\"quote-msg\">\n<div class=\"quote-author\">Quote:</div>\n<p>btw. Denis did you ever sell your wife on MD and move it to your big screen in the living room? You of all people should have it running there. :)</p></div>\n</p><p>Hehehehe....damn you remember that? Hell no I still don\'t have a MythBox on the main TV. But I do have my old Xbox running XBMC that she thinks is pretty cool. I streamed some movies I had saved and she was like \"you mean that\'s coming from upstairs in your office?\". What I really really want is one of those Nvidia Ion\'s frontends for the main system but they are still a bit pricey. Not too sure she wants a full blown computer in the Den.</p>\n<p>As for the XBMC on MythDora, I have downloaded and installed the rpm for that and it has issues. Was really hoping that it would work out of the box but to no avail. It has stupid issues that should have been fixed either in source or during the creation of the rpm. And the damn thing comes up as default when installed with no way to stop the program. You have to uninstall to get your desktop back. Oh and it just doesn\'t work :-(</p>\n<p>\"Please ignore the man behind the curtain\"<br />\nDennis</p>\n', created = 1369243222, expire = 1369329622, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:81ec8e1952928571c071b049a1613b19' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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Submitted by guitarben on July 28, 2009 - 3:31pm

*Not MD related but I thought this would be a good place to post* please don't flame me :)

OK, I currently have a dedicated myth backend (MD5) server that I use as a general "home server." It does everything for our house. The biggest thing is myth, but also, internal web server, music & movies server, photos, backups (rsync scripts), zone alarm, kickstart server, and other stuff I'm leaving off. It's been great I don't really have any complaints. MD5 was a really great release. With that said the repos are old and adding new software is getting tougher w/ time. I'd like to migrate to a platform that I can keep a little more up to date w/ smooth(er) upgrades. :) I'll probably keep it in run-level 3; it's headless and in the closet.

I wanted to get some opinions here on what I should use. Switching the 64-bit CentOS or Ubuntu server are the first two options that come to mind. For my experience they seem to upgrade between releases a little smoother than Fedora (I know that's super subjective - don't hate me) I do feel more "at home" w/ red hat based linux, but lately I've really been loving ubuntu on my laptop. I'm thinking about jumping ship.

Any thoughts? I'm curious to get some other opinions about this. What would you guys use for a server like this?

I'll stick w/ MD on my frontends. .......but please let's add Boxee to MD11-22.

:)

Cheers,
-ben

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re: Home Server setup

Submitted by mgpalmer on July 28, 2009 - 7:14pm.

guitarben wrote:

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Any thoughts? I'm curious to get some other opinions about this. What would you guys use for a server like this?

I'll stick w/ MD on my frontends. .......but please let's add Boxee to MD11-22.

I eventually made a home server for many of the reasons you mention (and others).
I kept my MD 5 backend and moved most other functions to the server, which is running on an older motherboard loaded with Centos 5.1. Like you, I'm much more familiar with the Red Hat systems. I've played with Ubuntu on a desktop, but have reverted to Fedora for that; mostly use Windows on my desktops for job related reasons.

Services I run the Centos system are mysql (which is no longer running on the MD server), media shared via NFS and Samba (videos, music), ntp, and a few other minor services. The MythDora system now stores only recordings and temp files on its local filesystem.
I noticed straight away that my MD server ran smoother with the database access off on another spindle.
I also have a MD 10.21 based frontend; I'd like to move my MD 5 server to MD 10.21, but haven't yet dedicated time to doing that, hoping instead that 11.22 will come along... not holding my breath; not in too big a hurry as long as it's running well.

A not too out of date description can be seen at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Mgpalmer
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Not sure if your referring

Submitted by d00dtv on July 28, 2009 - 4:22pm.

Not sure if your referring to Fedora not upgrading well by itself or just MythDora. If your referring to MythDora the answer is that the repos weren't always compatible but since version 10.21 rpmfusion is now in place and upgrades should be smoother now. But for anyone using versions prior to 10.21, yes it doesn't upgrade well. It seems everyone is on the Ubuntu wagon and I'm not sure why. They really aren't doing anything mind blowingly different then what Fedora hasn't already. I've never used Ubuntu so I can't comment on what to use. It's one of those things where if your comfortable with something and it works then stick with it.

As for Boxee, we are working on including that as we speak. I have already created a Boxee rpm that does work but it's not the cleanest method and will not work in our repos. Ryan is attempting to see if he can compile things and create a valid source and rpm that can be used for us. I also want to include XBMC as well. Someone has already created rpm's for that but I have no idea if there are src rpm's and if they will work in our repo. If someone wants to test XBMC out for us you can download here.
ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/www.sourcemirrors.org/scotth/fedora/10/i386/
I'll more then likely try this out myself to see what it does.

"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
Dennis

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Thanks for the responses.

Submitted by guitarben on July 29, 2009 - 1:03pm.

Thanks for the responses. That's really great news about Boxee & XBMC (I've been using that one for a loooong time)! I'm pumped about that being included. I recently hooked up both Boxee & XBMC to my backend using the myth:// protocol and it's pretty sweet. Not as good as myth-frontend but good enough to watch your shows and do a couple of other basic things. For upgrades I was referring to Fedora - I've had a few run smoothly and one not so smoothly.

As far as Ubuntu is concerned, I held out as long as I could. :) The main benefit for me is I don't waste near as much time trying to fix things that don't work out of the box - but ubuntu ain't perfect either, but it "feels" a little more polished to me. I still actively use & endorse both projects.

I guess I'm leaning towards CentOS for this server. I really like the idea of getting away from the 6 month upgrades. It would be interesting to see how smoothly upgrades would go w/ the rpmfusion repo. I'm still debating.

btw. Denis did you ever sell your wife on MD and move it to your big screen in the living room? You of all people should have it running there. :) I've completely converted my wife; she no longer misses Tivo and is always telling everyone how great it is and everything.

I'd love to get some more people to way in. Ryan, any hot sport opinions?

Cheers,
-Ben

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Quote: btw. Denis did you

Submitted by d00dtv on July 30, 2009 - 4:04pm.

Quote:

btw. Denis did you ever sell your wife on MD and move it to your big screen in the living room? You of all people should have it running there. :)

Hehehehe....damn you remember that? Hell no I still don't have a MythBox on the main TV. But I do have my old Xbox running XBMC that she thinks is pretty cool. I streamed some movies I had saved and she was like "you mean that's coming from upstairs in your office?". What I really really want is one of those Nvidia Ion's frontends for the main system but they are still a bit pricey. Not too sure she wants a full blown computer in the Den.

As for the XBMC on MythDora, I have downloaded and installed the rpm for that and it has issues. Was really hoping that it would work out of the box but to no avail. It has stupid issues that should have been fixed either in source or during the creation of the rpm. And the damn thing comes up as default when installed with no way to stop the program. You have to uninstall to get your desktop back. Oh and it just doesn't work :-(

"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
Dennis

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Yikes!

Submitted by guitarben on July 30, 2009 - 9:02am.

Maybe I shouldn't go w/ CentOS!

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/30/130249/CentOS-Project-Administrator-Goes-AWOL

I hope the guy is OK.

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re: Yikes!

Submitted by mgpalmer on August 1, 2009 - 7:20am.

guitarben wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't go w/ CentOS!

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/30/130249/CentOS-Project-Administrator-Goes-AWOL

I hope the guy is OK.

I was happy to see this morning on http://centos.org/ that the CentOS Project Admin is no longer AWOL. With or without Lance, though, CentOS is a great project that is not going away soon.
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